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Are replicators possible?

Vortaborg

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Report this Mar. 09 2007, 12:11 am

Do you think they ever will be?

According to the non-canon (and even non-official) Techical Manual replicators do not make things from pure energy. Material is stored, then reshaped into items, they can not transform one element into another or make something from pure energy.

Anyway, we know that you can condense 2 gamma ray photons into a positron/electron pair. To make something from pure energy you basically do E=Mc2 in reverse (and I'm not sure we can/will be able to make anything beyond a positron/electron pair)

So, say we wanted to make a 1 kilogram item, it would take way more energy that we'd ever be able to produce, (and just imagine the power bill! You'd be in debt for the rest of your life after making it) You are definitely better off aquiring the item rather than replicating it.

DS9_Redshirt

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Report this Mar. 09 2007, 7:07 am

U think that they will be invented within the next 50 years I say.

MajorR81

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Report this Mar. 09 2007, 7:14 am

Maybe one day it will be invented, I mean it defintly seems like it's possible so it might sooner or later.

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Report this Mar. 12 2007, 10:05 pm

aphids

eddie31

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Report this Mar. 14 2007, 1:58 pm

first we have to solve what hold the matters together. Cohesion sickness happens even in the ST universe

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Report this Mar. 18 2007, 10:30 pm

No.  I do not believe replicators will be invented in the next 200 years at least.

If they somehow ended up on Earth today, they would be seized and obscured immediately.  The powers that be would come to understand that replicators could become an equalizing force for all humanity...and there are very powerful interests on Earth today that would allow millions to die just to keep that from happening.

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Report this Mar. 19 2007, 5:26 pm

13,7 billion years ago our universe was pure energy, yet somehow some of that energy was changed into matter. The basic idea that replicators and transporters use in Star Trek is reality, so replicators could be reality someday... or devices similiar that use matter/energy conversion.

(I need to look this one up, I seem to have forgot HOW matter was born... feel free to remind me if you remember.)

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Report this Mar. 20 2007, 4:51 pm

we have scientists working on transporters right now.  they have successfully teleported beams of light and atoms of copper.

replicators and teleporters would have extremely simmillair technological processess so I'd say yes.  Plus replicators already exist, they just aren't like the ones on star trek, and the number of things they can build is very limited.  they can't make you food, but it can create models, tools, and things of that nature.  it's also very slow.  It takes like 10 hours just to replicate a hammer. It works much like a computer printer does.  It lays layer after layer of molecules on a platform and builds the object from the bottom up.

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Report this Mar. 21 2007, 3:25 pm

Quote (Vortaborg @ Mar. 08 2007, 1:11 am)
Do you think they ever will be?

According to the non-canon (and even non-official) Techical Manual replicators do not make things from pure energy. Material is stored, then reshaped into items, they can not transform one element into another or make something from pure energy.

Anyway, we know that you can condense 2 gamma ray photons into a positron/electron pair. To make something from pure energy you basically do E=Mc2 in reverse (and I'm not sure we can/will be able to make anything beyond a positron/electron pair)

So, say we wanted to make a 1 kilogram item, it would take way more energy that we'd ever be able to produce, (and just imagine the power bill! You'd be in debt for the rest of your life after making it) You are definitely better off aquiring the item rather than replicating it.

Well we are working on such technology now, in the form of 3d printers and the use of nanobots..

MR_Seven_of_Nine

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Report this Mar. 29 2007, 9:11 pm

On the topic of relpicators.
It would be posible but would require large amounts of energy, for example to produce Methane CH4 you need one carbon and four Hydrogen atoms, right. then you need to put them together in a covalent bond which also requires energy.
another example is Gold. Alchemists could never produce gold from lead because of the atomic differences. it would require nuclear fusion/fission or subatomic particle bombardment at speeds close to the speed of light to produce gold.
in theory it is possible to have replicators but the amount of energy to run these blasted things would be ... well. illogical :logical:

REARADMIRALBAXTER

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Report this Apr. 01 2007, 10:49 am

ONCE THE TRANSPORTER IS INVENTED THEN REPLICATORS WILL BECOME STANDARD ISSUE IN SAY 75-100 YEARS WOULD BE A RATHER LIBERAL ESTIMATE

MR_Seven_of_Nine

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Report this Apr. 02 2007, 4:03 pm

quit typing in all caps.

REARADMIRALBAXTER

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Report this Apr. 02 2007, 4:22 pm

ok

GrandLunar2007

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Report this Apr. 06 2007, 9:29 am

Quote (DarthJester @ Mar. 19 2007, 5:26 pm)
13,7 billion years ago our universe was pure energy, yet somehow some of that energy was changed into matter. The basic idea that replicators and transporters use in Star Trek is reality, so replicators could be reality someday... or devices similiar that use matter/energy conversion.

(I need to look this one up, I seem to have forgot HOW matter was born... feel free to remind me if you remember.)

I did see a program once on the birth of the universe.
I forgot the exact process, but I do know that elementry particles formed, then produced protons, neutrons, ect.
The main elements available, though, were hydrogen, helium, and some lithium.

Only by nucleosythesis (the process of making heavy elements from light ones by nuclear fusion) did heavier elements, like oxygen, carbon, silicon, ect, come into being.
Supernova made the rest, like iron, gold, lead, and uranium.

A program I saw called "Star Trek Tech" shows one way I think we can use.
Its based on the transporter.
The object is scanned. Then, the device uses the matter available in the space to create a duplicate. To me, its not much of a stretch of imagination to use to for replicators.

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Report this Apr. 13 2007, 4:51 am

I think there's strong possibility we can 'create' organic things from what we call 'replicators' in the franchise.  Non living Organic chemistry reactions and composition are very well understood and it's just a matter of putting everything together for a practical purpose.  It would therefore operate at the molecular level. I think some of the basic replicators in TNG are like that anyway, as they call them food replicators; they only output food patterns that are always criticized for tasting bad.  If they really operated at the atomic level then there's really no reason why this would be so.  Then we hear of 'industrial' replicators.  These might be the real deal and of course not going to happen anytime soon based on e=mc^2

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